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plain base bullets in the wheelgun from hell, continued - Mountain Molds

plain base bullets in the wheelgun from hell, continued

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plain base bullets in the wheelgun from hell, continued

Postby mtngun » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:05 pm

In yet another valient effort to get plain base bullets to shoot well in my 4" S&W M29 with the 0.4336" throats, today I tried using Rooster HVR lube, instead of the homemade lube EL#3 that was used in the previous experiment. Rooster HVR has been the cleanest lube tested to date in other cartridges.

All other components were the same as before, 250 gr. HTWW, deep seated plain base design, case necks turned to allow chambering the 0.434" bullets, 24 gr. H110, CCI 350 magnum primer.

After 5 shots, the barrel looked clean. :wink:

After 10 shots, I could see a few specks of fouling on one side of the barrel. :roll:

After 15 shots, one side of the barrel had a light but distinct coating of lead, while the other side of the barrel was perfectly clean. :(

The fouling wasn't that bad, and I would be willing to accept it if it were stable, but it seemed to be building up as more shots were fired.

Velocity was 1278 fps, 28 std dev, average group at 50 yards 4.8", all 15 shots in 6", the majority of them in a ragged hole. I am probably the limiting factor for accuracy because I haven't practiced with this gun for many years and it is not easy to shoot.

That compares to 1292 fps and 4.6" with my experimental lube EL#3, so Rooster didn't make any difference.

The sensible thing to do here is admit defeat and go back to shooting gas checks, but that would be too easy.

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Re: plain base bullets in the wheelgun from hell, continued

Postby Ray » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:39 am

The problems you're having with this gun suggest a couple of things. First, there may be some misallignment of the barrel or forcing cone. Another possibility is a rough bore in one area. I'd try fire lapping the darn thing and see if that helps. Also, would check and re-cut the forcing cone if necessary.

I have used H110 and WW296 (same powder actually) for years with plain base bullets without leading. In fact I never clean the barrels of my hunting revolvers when using these powders exclusivly-- no sense to it.

Personally, I would not go to the trouble of reaming cases. Too damn much work! I think I'd stick with a gas check or get rid of the gun. Life's too short....

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Re: plain base bullets in the wheelgun from hell, continued

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Re: plain base bullets in the wheelgun from hell, continued

Postby mtngun » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:52 pm

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MY OLD S&W would only shoot with 240 remingtons and 24 grains h 110 and with 270 gold dots and 21.3 imr 4227 because of the 433 throats. For some reason it shot very well with those loads. I gave it to my son because he liked it so much. The pc hunter I now hunt with is perfect in all dimentions and every load I try in it shoots very well. The tolerances on a revolver is what I look at nowadays. I will get a Freedom Arms next. A friend of mine is getting close to talking me out of my new frontier. It will be a 45. I like my ruger 41 mag very much but I cant go without a 45. I like them all,357,41,44, but a 45 does not have to be pushed hard to hunt anything. I hope I am not talking too much but when comes to revolvers I get happy.


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