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Marlin 444

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Marlin 444

Postby mtngun » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:11 pm

The good news is that, unlike many other levergun cartridges, the 444 has a bona fide throat that steps down to groove diameter instead of an oversize funnel. However, the leade is only about 0.050" long, and a full diameter tangential ogive will not chamber. Never mind that such and such an LBT bullet will chamber, because there is no standardization for the LBT designs, and many commercially cast "LBT" bullets are not true LBT designs, anyway.

The leade angle appears to be 5° per side (or 10° total), a little steeper than ideal, but at least it has a leade.

Glen Fryxell's solution is an undersize ogive. The 0.425" diameter nose lightly engraves in a microgroove barrel.

I don't know if these designs are optimal for Winchesters and TC's.

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Instead of using the longest possible nose, Glen went with a 0.315" long nose because it feeds better.

I like the big body bands because they are easier to cut and easier to cast than itty bitty bands.

For load details, see http://www.leverguns.com/articles/fryxell/444marlin.htm

** Nice looking bullet. What is the overall length?
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** About 0.825", including the gas check.

** Thanks... interesting bullet mold. Love the 444!

** BTW, the bullet in the picture weighed 301.8 gr. cast from straight wheelweight.
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Re: Fryxell design for 444 microgroove

Postby mtngun » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:00 pm

Hello MM.

First I like to say that the 350 grs mold you made for my 444 Marlin this spring is perfect.
It drop the most wonderful bullets that you can think of.
My old microgroove marlin is very accurate with the bullets. [note: Olle drives the 350 grainers pretty fast. I believe his design uses a stepped nose instead of the Fryxell undersize nose]

I have taked one moose with the bullet and it was perfect.
I shoot at 45 yards and the bullet entered in the left shoulder and exited in front of the right "back bone".
The moose took two steps and went down.

Now to my question: can you make a 300 grs mold that drop bullets in the same shape as my 350 grainer for me, like the one you had on "typical designs"?

Have a nice day!
Olle
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Re: Fryxell design for 444 microgroove

Postby mtngun » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:25 pm

Try this. You may want to modify the bore riding diameter. The bore riding section should be about 0.424" for microgroove barrels, or 0.420" for the new deep groove barrels, but use your own judgement.
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Re: Marlin 444

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